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And their Sept 23 nonsense!
God some looney prophet is scaring people with the nonsense notion that ‘the rapture’ is going to happen on September 23 – where on earth do we get these crazy Christians??
More than one person is spreading that rumour Mark. Lots of people are running scared.
Honestly?!? Oh man God, where do we get these people for goodness sake??
Humans Mark. Just ordinary people.
Surely not God!! Spare me, pagan tribes have been looking at the sky and thinking it was going to fall, pretty much ever since the world began. And now these people, with full access to a normal education, are making a mockery of you by spreading this nonsense. It makes me cross God.
Because they could be listening to me, but instead they listen to the father of lunacy.
Well do something about it then please God, for goodness sake! Get these blimmen whackos out of the public eye!! The rapture on September 23? The end of the world? The birth of the church? What will they come up with next?? You and I both know God that nothing like this is going to happen on September 23!!
Yes I know that, but how do you know it?
Well God seriously? Apparently the stars are going to be in the same configuration as when you were born on September 23. So what?? The sun rose on the morning you were born too, that’s a fairly significant galactic event, but it doesn’t mean that every time the sun rises, we’re in for the rapture.
Yes. But how do you know for sure it’s not going to happen?
Well I asked you just now. And you said I’d be dying at a ripe old age, and so would my kids, and their kids after them.
Yes. But why did you ask?
Because I heard that some drop kick Christians were running around scaring people with the wild idea that because the planets do something unusual on September 23, that the rapture is going to happen. I mean seriously? Surely these self-appointed prophets know better than this?? They’re peddling bull#@&t God!
Sadly they don’t Mark.
Because they don’t know how to hear me. Period. They’re lost. Deaf. Have no idea how to hear me. Nada. They’re barking up the wrong tree and listening to their enemy.
But God they’re pretending they know exactly how to hear you.
Well they don’t. They listen to him instead and think it’s me. They listen to him condemn them for their faults, and then they pass that condemnation on to others. Just like the Pharisees did. They listen to him demand extra service to me, and they load that on others too. They listen to him demand they read more bible, pray more prayers, sing more worship. It’s all rules Mark. Rules, rules and more rules. His rules. Not mine.
He’s already got them fooled into thinking his voice is mine, so now this whole September 23 thing is so easy for him to slip in. They’re gullible and up for any rubbish, because THEY DO NOT KNOW HOW TO HEAR ME. So many men and women teaching the church, have no more idea than a goat how to hear me. Does that concern you Mark?
Concern me?? To be honest no! I’m over it God. Up to here with it. Those weirdos can stew in their own silly rubbish. What concerns me is that they are telling the poor unsuspecting, unchurched about their crazy ideas. I’m just hoping my unchurched friends, people who I like and respect, don’t hear this latest round of Christian craziness. They’re the ones I’m concerned about. I don’t want these numb nuts telling them that you’re going to turn up and take all the lovely Christians away, and then thrash the poor buggers who are left. Spare me God!! Where do these people get this crap???
You know exactly where they get it Mark, from the father of crap.
God you said crap! Hah!!
Mark I invented crap, remember. Without that function, you’d be doomed. Ask a doctor. But back to the September 23 lie -- my suggestion to the church is stop listening to this prophet and that, and start listening more to me. “You do not need that any man teach you, because the spirit teaches you, stick with what the Spirit says.” Eph: 3:10
But nobody knows how to listen to you God!!! That’s why they’re all so eager to listen to anyone who proclaims themselves a prophet. That, and they’re all too busy being bullied by Satan into trying to please you with super-Christian-effort.
Well then teach them. And teach them to teach others how. Start an army.
Nope. Not me God. If you ever catch me having anything to do with starting a religion or a movement of any kind, shoot me right there and then. I’m trying to help people listen to you, so that they can be free from being dominated by this one or that.
Mark if you teach others to hear me, they, not you, will overthrow this lie that I only speak through the prophets, or the bible, depending on which lie they’ve bought into. I don’t want to speak through a man, I want to speak to each of you, just on my own. Yes I’ll use the bible, and I’ll use what others teach you too, but much more importantly, and much more often, I just want to talk direct to you.
Well that’ll be a shock for all the ‘I’m-the-big-man-of-God’ types God.
It’ll be a shock to more than just them Mark. On one end you’ve got the ‘God-only-speaks-through-the-bible’ fundamentalist lie, and on the other you’ve got the ‘listen-to-the-mighty-man-(or-woman)-of-God’ lie. I’m not coming to whisk you all away and thrash all the ‘naughty ones’ on September 23. Sorry but that’s not how it goes down. It will be just another day. It will have plenty of evil and plenty of good, just like any other day. But I tell you what I am doing, right now. I’m not waiting till September 23, I’m doing it right now.
I am beginning to crush the systems of control that find my people obedient to the direction and whims of this leader or that, and unable to hear me for themselves. This is the very thing that Martin Luther and so many others have spoken against, the control of God’s message by mere men. And it’s happening again. I am going to set people free from all that.
So Mark, if the September 23 Rapture is more of the enemy’s lies, why would he lie about that sort of thing?
God he’s been driving my generation, and the one before, to be rapture-mad for the last 40 plus years!!
Because it takes our eyes off living in the world you have given us, a beautiful world, it makes us not want to bother doing a great job of the world and our time in it, because hey, we’re going home soon right??
And what do you think of that Mark?
God it makes my blood boil. You made us to work and play and live and have a fantastic time on earth. To make the place better for our having been here, but the bloody devil has us all running around waiting to be beamed up to heaven, and hassling the poor unchurched to ‘get saved’ so they can come too. You want us to enjoy and build each other, not harass in a mass spiritual panic.
Exactly. That will do for now.
But God I wanted to talk about Winkie Pratney and Dennis Peacocke, and a number of other very smart men, and the stuff they’ve got from you around this subject of not trying to run away from the world, but actually building it.
We can talk about that later Mark.
Religion gets in the way of my voice. (It does NOT make it easier for you to hear me.)
Ok so good morning God.
Yes what God?
Yes it’s a good morning.
Did you honestly say that God? Did we honest-to-goodness, just go through that little exchange? I mean, I know it’s normal for you and me to talk like that now, but I still find it unbelievable some days. Crazy, weird. It seems to defy common sense.
It defies Religious sense Mark, but Religion and his servants have been defying me since the beginning.
And bang! We’re straight into it again God! Why does talking with you always have to have such deep and important meaning like this. It gets so deep so quickly – it’s always like a philosophy or theology session. Deep rational thinking.
Mark it’s not because of me, it because of you, everything with you has to be like that.
You mean me personally.
Yes. That’s the way you personally like things. Deep. You want to know what’s really going on, always. You want to know what others are thinking. You want to know what I am thinking. You were the little boy that always asked ‘Why?’. You still are. That’s how I made you. Some are like you, some are not.
And because you’re like that, I talk to you like that. Do you get that?
Yes I guess.
I talk the way you want me to talk. I am comfortable talking every different way, but you are only comfortable talking your way. That’s fine, when talking to you I talk your way. Philosophical, theological, rational, deep.
Far out… mind boggles God.
Yes. But mine doesn’t, so that’s the fun of it for you. Mind stretching.
Ok, God everything I was ever taught about you, makes an exchange like that highly unlikely.
Well sin I suppose. I’m VERY sinful. Very wilful, very selfish. I’m not supposed to be able to hear you when I’m sinful.
Have you read the bible Mark?? Name me a perfect person other than me, Adam and Eve.
Ok fair enough. So how come we think we have to be better people before we can hear you?
Religion and his dark servants have lied to you.
Demonic presences, dark angels, strongmen. Religion, every religion, is a cesspool of them. Laughing and screaming in delight as they lead you away from God, whilst you, all the while, think you are walking toward me.
Shoot God!! That’s a bit heavy.
Yes it is. Far too heavy a burden on those who think they are heading toward me.
God you know that’s not what I mean! What I meant is that’s a heavy thing to say about religion.
You talk about it like that Mark.
Yes but that’s me. I’m not God. I have a bad attitude about Religion. And I’m human so I’m allowed to. But you’re God, so you have to be way nicer. I’ve had it up to there with all the crap that people get fed by Religion. If I could get my hands around his throat I’d strangle him like he strangles so many who start out hungry for you. All his rules, all his expectations – “more prayer, more praise, more meetings, more serving, more tithing”, and all of it apparently what you want. But obviously it’s not what you want at all God.
No it’s not. And I’m going to get even heavier with Religion Mark. I am doing things that will crush much of what has become accepted as normal by you Christians. It’s all going out the door. I don’t what your systems, I want you. Religion lays heavy burdens on people, and then never lifts a finger to help them. I don’t like that Mark. I don’t like it at all. Imagine how you’d feel if you saw someone mistreating your grandson.
I’d be livid God, wanting to belt them.
Yes quite. And Mark when I see Religion mistreat people, pretend that he is leading them closer to me, when he is actually leading them away? When I see that I get cross.
Okay, far out, this is getting… well, I don’t know God, a bit over the top. We were just talking about the morning.
That’s how you like it remember. Meaning. Deep. Even the bible is full of reference to the morning being good and blessed by me. But why get legal Mark, we’re just talking.
True. But it is weird God. And I still find it hard to get my head around. It doesn’t fit with what we were all taught was normal Christianity. You’re not supposed to turn up for a chat about little stuff like the morning!?!
Really? I’m God remember. I’m not vindictive or oppressive or fault-finding like you’ve been taught. Not even looking for guilt like you’ve been taught. But I am God. That bit was right, so I do get to make my own mind up about things. And I made my mind up before time began, to turn up for a chat every morning. You already know that.
Well God when this first happened, all my pastors said that you weren’t saying what I thought you were saying at all. That my conversations with you were misguided, and not you at all. They said I should try and hear you less, and just read the bible more. They said The Freedom Diaries was a dangerous book, and they’ve since poisoned a whole raft of other pastors against it.
But there are thousands more pastors who are for it Mark. And anyway, you’ve made unwise comments about others before today, so what’s the big deal if they do the same to you?? It’s pretty typical behaviour for you humans. You’ve told people that certain people’s work for me is questionable, when actually I was very happy with what they were doing. ‘Live and let live’ is my recommendation Mark.
LUKE 9:49-50 “Master,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we tried to stop him, because he is not one of us.” “Do not stop him,” Jesus said, “for whoever is not against you is for you.”
ACTS 5:38 “Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail. But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.”
Ok true. I guess I’ve probably criticised others working for you more than I realise.
A lot more Mark. A lot more! So what do you think, does this conversation we’re having seem like me?? Forget about your Religious background, and whether this conversation fits with that. Does this conversation feel like what your spirit knows about me??
Feel God? What my spirit knows?
Yes. In your spirit, you know exactly what I’m like. Your religious mind, shuts it off, but your spirit is hearing me constantly. Your religion gets in the way of my voice, rather than making it easier to hear.
Ok well yes, this sure does seem like you.
That’s good. It is me. You’re getting better at this.
It still seems so foreign though God.
That you would speak like this. That God, actual God, would speak back and forth.
And what other bits?
That you’d have a little exchange like you did above, almost tongue-in-cheek. Almost like you were having me on in some way, playing with me.
Yes. I enjoy this as much as you.
I do Mark. I enjoy our discussions. I look forward to them, even more than you do. You think that I do this for your sake, and of course I do. But I do it just as much for my own
The damnable, bald-faced, Satanic lie. The lie that God only speaks through the bible.
God I think you said earlier today, that you want to talk about the lie…
Yes I do Mark. I want to expose the lie.
Are you sure?
I’m sure. The lie has gone on too long. Most know it’s a lie, but are afraid to expose it, afraid they might be misunderstood, afraid people will misunderstand and shun them.
I’m a bit concerned about that myself God.
Don’t be. I want this said. You’re not the only one who’s going to say it. Many of you are hearing me tell you to say this, but you’re worried it might not be me. That’s because this is the news your enemy is terrified will get out.
Ok, I’m happy to do it then God, happy to expose the lie, as long as you’re really sure. This will shock some people God. Are you sure you want to shock people??
You know the bible verses about that Mark. Plenty of them. Verses that make it clear that shocking is often necessary. Verses about that, and stories about this one or that, saying things that shock and concern. People moved by me to break things apart. Remember what Ahab said about Elijah?
Yes. It’s the verse before my favourite verse, my absolute favourite. “Is that you oh troubler of Israel?”
Yes. My heroes have always been seen as trouble makers.
Well get on with it Mark.
You mean expose the lie?
Expose the lie.
Go on Mark, do you have the courage?
God are you challenging me??
Ok then, I’m up for it, I’ll speak it out.
‘on with it then Mark.
Ok God you’re talking about the lie, the vicious, mischievous lie that God only speaks through the bible.
Yes what God?
Yes it’s a lie.
God somehow I’d rather that I had said it. It seems pretty scary to hear you say it yourself.
It’s a lie Mark.
Ok then, you want to expose the lie that we don’t need to listen for your voice in any other way. The lie that the bible is enough, the lie that we don’t need to hear you in the Spirit, don’t need to listen for your voice direct to our spirits.
Yes that lie. You’re doing well. You’ll get in trouble for this, but be so thankful you were born in this generation. Men have been burned at the stake by the Religion and his servants, and burned for much less than exposing this lie.
Yes. You’re hitting right at the heart of the Satanic Kingdom Mark. Satan’s lie that the bible is so wonderful that you don’t need to listen to me.
Ok God, I’ll take it from here – you’re talking about the lie that takes away the beauty of hearing your voice. ‘The gentle voice’ as my mate Daniel Walker says. Your sometimes gentle, sometimes hilariously funny, sometimes melodic voice. The voice as you called it in John 5:30, the voice that whispers, sings and hums words to us – whole wonderful sentences to us, full paragraphs to us. The lie that robs us of all that, and makes us so, soooo religious and rule-bound.
Yes. You’re doing well. And it is a lie Mark. It’s time you stopped pussyfooting around the subject. When someone tells you that the bible is the only way I speak, don’t worry about offending them, just call them on the lie. Because it is. It’s a damnable, corrupt and sinister lie. It stops my people hearing my voice. Imagine someone convinced your kids that the only way to hear you was reading your emails. Imagine someone prevented you from speaking direct to them. You’d be angry. I am Mark. Angry. Not with people but with the father of that lie. I want you to put you hand over his mouth Mark. Push him back. Command him silent.
Whoa God! You’re getting all worked up. Wow.
You love it Mark, you love it when you sense me rumble. So stop worrying about being mistaken for someone who doesn’t value the bible. You’ve authored a book filed with bible verses. Don’t worry about what people think, just speak what I have told you. Get on with the job! Of course I speak through the bible. But I speak more into a person’s heart, much more than I do than I do through the bible. There, I’ve said it. Now, let the battle begin.
Of course more Mark. Think about it. Even those literate enough to read, and wealthy enough to have constant access to the bible, you are only going to be reading it for a small part of the time. You’re human! But you can be listening to me whenever you have a question you would normally ask yourself. You’re always asking yourself this question or that. It’s a human thing. But imagine if, instead of asking yourself all those questions, you asked me and received answers direct to your mind and spirit. Mark it’s not practical to find a bible and rummage through the pages, every time you have a question.
God there are plenty of church bosses who are deeply worried about that idea. They’re worried that if people put too much emphasis on hearing you, that they might make a mistake, might hear you wrong.
Yes. And Mark if the Pharisees, bible experts, could get scripture so wrong that they horribly murdered the God of their scriptures, then it’s clear that reading the bible, is just as dangerous as listening to me.
Mark I want the naysayers, the bible-pharisees to stop and think, I want them to answer these questions… I want them to stop burdening others with so many rules about how I do and don’t speak. I want them to stop shutting up the door to those who just want to hear me, to those tired of Religion’s rules and regulations.
Ok God. A bit rude…
Overdue rude Mark. Ask them this; they’re the bible experts, they know that I promised that after I had gone, the Holy Spirit would come and speak. So where do they get the idea that the voice of the Holy Spirit would only last until the bible was canonised? What a ridiculous idea.
You Christians need to start thinking Mark. Why would I do that? Why would I speak to you one day, and then the day the bible is finally canonised, suddenly stop speaking? Give me one good reason a loving Father would do that. You Christians have to stop peddling Religion’s silly lies. He’s bad enough, doing damage enough, without you helping him spread his mischief.
One good reason God? They seem to have way more than just one!!!
Yes plenty of reasons Mark, and all of them a sham, smoke and mirrors Mark. A lie.
You’re pretty het up about this God??
You have no idea Mark, if you could see the centuries of people robbed of the chance to hear my voice. Robbed by this lie that I only speak through the bible. That lie is one of the ‘gods’ of Satan’s unholy trinity.
Yes. The three Satanic Majesties – the unholy trinity. The first of those three great dark majesties, is that you must constantly be thinking about, and trying to improve on, and confessing your faults.
Then there’s the lie that I only speak through the bible. And yet I am always speaking Mark. I have never stopped. Do you honestly think that I, the God of heaven and earth, am bound by a book? Honestly? That I can only speak through those written words? Honestly??
Matt 4:4 Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'"
Ok that’s two, but there are three?
Yes. That you must listen to the priests if you want to hear me. Religion has always had its priests, always fooled you that the safest way to hear me is through them. It’s a lie Mark. The true priests don’t want you believing that any more than I do. They want you hearing for yourself. It’s not their job to hear for you.
1 John 2:27 “You do not need any man to teach you, but the Spirit that you have received teaches you. Remain in him.”
God I’m resisting the urge to reprimand you and tell you to please not talk like this, it will only get people’s backs up.
Well, that’s the unholy trinity Mark. There it is. Three great lies, three satanic majesties. Each lie governed and managed by a major dark angel presence, a strongman.
Exactly. And Mark be honest with yourself, you don’t actually really care about getting people’s backs up, not if they are constantly preventing others from listening to my voice. My cool, clear, healing voice. You think you do, but actually you don’t. You’ve had enough of pussyfooting, and so have I. It’s time Religion was silenced. His mischief must stop. Yes of course I speak through the bible, but equally, and more often, far more often, I speak to men’s hearts. Direct. And women, and children. I speak to humans. Direct. And no, they don’t have to be good. They don’t have to be ‘saved’, they just have to be human. The bible makes that clear Mark. I spoke to people whatever they were like. And I’m still the same God.
The bible is a wonderful book, but my voice is an even more wonderful thing. Yes I speak through the bible. But how did the early church hear me, how did John hear me, how did I myself hear my Father? Only through scripture?? Pah!! Use your brains Mark. All of you, use your brains. You must start using them. If you want to win the world, you need to engage your brains and see the ridiculous lies Religion tells you for what they are.
And Mark, what about the centuries of Christians, who couldn’t read, what about them? How did they hear from me, when they couldn’t read the bible anyway? Come on, answer me that?
God you’re preaching to the converted.
Yes. But you’re not. Tell them. Tell them to use their brains and stop preventing others from hearing me.
My marriage came crashing down and me with it. The devastation began sinking in and me with it. Nothing I knew was the same anymore. It was horrible and I was terrified. I threw my pride to the wind and screamed (literally) to God.